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« on: September 27, 2011, 12:12:03 PM »

I was a little surprised at the email I received a few minutes ago on the evaluation of San Pedro from Retire Early Lifestyle.  Some of the comparisons made don't seem quite right.  Comparing our beaches with beaches in the Eastern Caribbean.....not fair.    Comparing our prices with ?? probably a small town in Mexico or another Central American city on the main land.......not fair.  Refering over the bridge to the toney section " I guess the city has to pay for the bridge somehow... Tooling around on our bicycles, we find that to get to the other side of the island where all the Toney places are, we have to pay a Belizean buck each way."  Christ, I'll give you the buck to cross, they where so cheap it looks like they didn't cross the bridge.  There is a lot more they did not experience here either. All over the Island   Roll Eyes

Seems to me that it wasn't a very good evaluation and that it was done on the lowest cost budget possible.  Yes, San Pedro has some warts but this just doesn't sound like this was fair comments/comparisons to me.  I would rate their article, "In a nut shell we were disappointed"  Sad


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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2011, 05:39:10 PM »

Jim- Honestly the article is right on.  A similar resort area would be Roatan.  Roatan has nice beaches....the lodging is a nicer for less money and the fresh foods are actually fresh.  SP is over priced and not spectacular.  Obviously I like the place, I keep going back but that has more to do with my friends there than the destination.  The problem with SP is it's run down and over priced.  The average tourist just doesn't see it the way I do....and would feel ripped off if they compared it to even Roatan.
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2011, 06:05:20 PM »

Maybe clover, but I can't leave Phoenix at 7:30 a.m. and be on the beach drinking a beer in Roatan at 5 p.m. and my Spanish isn't so good either!  Yea, neither is my English!!!! Wink
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2011, 06:22:26 PM »

AZ...I've been to SP 23 times since 2003.  I like the place....but I see the point of the article.  I've had more friends end up being regualar visitors to Roatan, than SP.  It's just cheaper, there's beaches and they speak English!  You have to be a mature traveler to appreciate SP.  Just sayin Grin 
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2011, 06:54:39 PM »

Mike, look I know only too well that San Pedro has some short comings but these two stayed at low end hotels; probably only stayed one day; didn't go snorkeling, diving or fishing and didn't hardly roam around the Island. They start off complaining about the water ferry being crowded and their suitcases being placed in the sand.  They go on to make fun in a derogatory way about the name of a medical lab.  The bananas and plantains where over ripe?

I like San Pedro because it is quite; its' people are very friendly; it has many restaurants (after 6 years, I don't think I've been to them all); it is safe; and everyone speaks English.

The beaches have turtle grass but most everyone knows that up front.  It is not Mystique, Nevis, Martinique or the Grenadines but I've been to all of them and more.  They are very expensive and I don't see how you could possibly retire at any of them. Nice to visit but retire? This was a retirement article, wasn't it? Christ, Mystique is a little rinky dink Island that caters to rock stars.  A lunch there at one of the very few restaurants would cost you $50US (I'm guessing a little because I haven't been there in almost 20 years but I'll bet I'm very close to being right, maybe low.  If housing, food and everything you need to have a decent retirement where reasonable I'd be living in that area instead of San Pedro.  Nothing better than BVI but try to buy a place.  With what they wrote and with how much money they spent in San Pedro it is hard for me to believe they traveled at all in the Eastern Caribbean.  What the hell did they do, sleep on the beach there and eat fruit of the trees for meals?  They certainly didn't rent a room for $35US.  I lived in this area for 5 years and I know what it costs. 

"Personally, we found it dull and coined the phrase “Brainless in Belize”  (they found it dull, well a lot of retired people like me like it a little dull with occasional wild times)  Wink I don't like it too busy and I don't like a constant party.  That is not how most people live.  Hell I'm a country boy at heart even if I'm from Massachusetts.  Grin

The comments about the trash and garbage unfortunately where correct but I think we are making big strides with the clean ups in the last 6 months and in a few weeks when I get back I'm going to put an effort into supporting this in any way I can.  Every morning I walk my dog for a few hours and visit friends along the beach.  I started last April carring a bag and picking up trash on my way back and I think it made a big difference in my area and set a good example for others who observed me doing this.  I will continue this from the get go.  I like San Pedro and I'll take it, these two assholes can have Mystique and the fricken stars who live there.   Sad

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If you look at where Belize is positioned geographically, you can see that it is just as tropical as Mexico and Guatemala. Yet the produce we found there was not only more expensive than its neighboring countries, but also of lesser quality and with skimpy selections offered in the stores. ......The beaches were often covered in dead sea grass and it was flourishing out in the ocean as well, making swimming close to shore a sort of slimy affair. We have traveled extensively through this area of the world visiting some of the finest beaches you will ever see. The white sands of the island of Nevis, Mystique, Martinique and the Grenadines in the Caribbean are particularly memorable.
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2011, 08:06:32 PM »

I don't know much about Roatan.  I'll bet is a nice place. I'll take your word for it. Maybe I should visit there sometime this winter for a few days.   The article did not mention Roatan, so as far as I'm concerned it has no bearing what so ever on this article. 

This article is trying to compare San Pedro with the Eastern Caribbean.  There are no comparisons especially in the context of a retirement article.  I like the Eastern Caribbean especially St. Thomas or should I say St. Johns and BVI.  The problem is that it is very difficult to afford a real nice place.  What I own in SP would be at least double the cost in BVI if available, probably more.  Cost of living is very high.  No one except rock stars goes to Mystique to retire.  What a ridiculous Island to mention. Home of Mike Jagger and Raguel Welch.  I’d rather drink with Dead Serious, Peter, and Clover but that is just me.
 I doubt this couple has visited these places in other a cruise.  Tell where, anywhere in the Eastern Caribbean you can rent a room for $35 US.  They are so cheap if they where there they must have slept on the beach and only ate fruit they stole of the trees in peoples yards.  Christ, I was there on my boat with my family and I know how expensive it was even after shopping around.  Puerto Rico is doable but I’m more comfortable with English in a country with an English influence.  I don’t mind rice and beans occasionally and I like stewed chicken but I’m not interested in eating that every day.  San Pedro is a good balance of several cultures.

Besides where could I go and get good pizza, drink draft beers and jagger, have my dog with me and be around the characters I meet in San Pedro.  Best of all I don’t have to dress up.  Shorts tee and flip flops are the uniform of the day every day.  I had to go out to Belmopan to see some officials last winter so what the hell I figured I would dress up a little.  That took a trip to Wings and then to a seamstress so I was all set for the next day with a set of khaki trousers and a short sleeve shirt (no tie, that would be too much).  I was the only one besides the officials that was dressed up but what the hell I guess that is just me. Old habits are hard to break. Anyway that is what I like about Belize and I haven’t found that anywhere else in the Caribbean. 

I have never been in an argument with a local and they are all very nice to me.  I can’t say that in the Eastern Caribbean where I was lucky they didn’t toss me off a few Islands.  The people here are different. Not stuffy, very friendly and even if they see you are frustrated with their system of doing things they just shrug their shoulders, smile at you and you say the hell with it, so we do it your way and then you smile. You know why, because after a while you realize that you don’t want to change it to the way you are used to.  It wouldn’t be Belize.   Wink

The article has no depth and because of that it is not fair.  Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2011, 08:55:00 PM »

The reason I compared Roatan is because it is in the western caribbean and is not an "improved' tourist site like the Caymans etc.  I like Roatan, the beaches are great, the people are friendly and it has that laid back vibe.  Like I said, I go to SP more than any other place but I understand the normal tourist not "getting" SP.  Of all the islands I've been to Aruba rates up there with Oahu as an over rated shit hole.  Besides that, the Eastern Caribbean draws a lot of New Yorkers and people from Rhode Island.......for some reason those folks annoy me in an instant! 
They say 80 percent of SP tourists are repeat visitors....there's a reason for that Wink
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