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« on: October 14, 2009, 03:25:31 PM »

http://www.katu.com/news/local/64059697.html
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009, 03:28:37 PM »

The fascist mentality is more prevalent than you would think.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2009, 03:35:31 PM »

ds,  I own my home so I can do what I want without worring about some one bitching.  I've flown a large flag (5X8') half way up my driveway since just after 9/11.  It started a trend because shortly there after several other houses in the neighborhood put up flag poles and did the same.  I've had comments but they have always been positive.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 03:39:44 PM »

Politically correctness rears its ugly head again. Last December, a Christmas tree was removed from a courthouse lobby in Toronto because it might be offensive to non-Christians. Too bad, so sad. Our society is becoming ridiculous.
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 03:40:12 PM »

We are one of the few countries in the world where a large population of home and business owners fly our national flag on a routine basis. I am one of them.

Several years ago we were brought to tears walking in Rome where we looked up and saw a large American flag and a sign saying "9-11 We will not forget you-USA".

We were told it was Italians flying it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 04:24:19 PM »

We had a flag incident earlier this year.  A young lad from the next town over was killed in Iraq.  He attended the Regional High School in our town and had a lot of ties with the town.  It just so happens that he was a friend of my son and they had played HS football together.  Anyway the Selectmen in Town refused to fly the flags at half mast when his body was delivered back home for the funeral.  It caused quite a stir.  Their reasoning was that the Governor had to order the flags to be found at half mast.

This went on for a few days and they wouldn't budge.  The day of the funeral there was to be a precession from the funeral home through our town on the way to the National Cemetery in Bourne.  Two of the business owners in town lowered their flags, the hell with the Selectmen.  No one said anything.  I stopped by the hardware store and thanked the owner.  He told me it was the right thing to do.  Since that day I for go trips to the Big Box stores and shop at the hardware store anytime I need something.  The hell with slightly higher cost and the hell with the Selectmen.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009, 04:53:50 PM »

In 2006 the Freedom to Display the Flag Act was signed so homeowners in
Associations could fly the flag without permission from the Associations they belonged to.  It appears that common citizens that "rent" have no right to do anything on property they don't own.........sad but true.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2009, 06:56:13 PM »

I think those who are renting commercial or residential premises should read their written lease agreements - if there is no specific prohibition to flying a flag or a depicition of the flag, let it wave.   I'd let it wave any way, and put the burden on the hack who is attempting to enforce such nonesense - let them spend some money and time, i got plenty of both.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2009, 07:05:23 PM »

I was a McDonald's General Manager when Richard Nixon passed.  It took some time for the official word from either state or federal government to officially ask that flags be lowered.  I had our maintenance man lower the flag right after the news and caught hell from several patrons who yelled at me for making that decision on my own.  I raised it to full mast and waited.  Meanwhile, I got even more upset patrons that I DIDN'T have the flag lowered.  Couldn't win. It was a very long day until the order came -- 1 day later on my day off.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2009, 08:15:44 PM »

"I was a McDonald's General Manager"
ah HA! that answers a lot of my questions!!!!!!!!!!! Wink Kiss Grin
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2009, 09:33:17 PM »

Politically correctness rears its ugly head again. Last December, a Christmas tree was removed from a courthouse lobby in Toronto because it might be offensive to non-Christians. Too bad, so sad. Our society is becoming ridiculous.

"Christmas trees" have absolutely nothing to do with the Christian festival of Christmas.  They are a "pagan" (ie. non-Christian) tradition from Norway.  They only bear the epithet "Christmas" because Christianity decided to reinvent everything surrounding the pre-existing festival they hijacked as if it were related to their new religion.  Most aspects of the mid-winter festival remain unchanged from pre-Christian days, the tree included.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2009, 06:41:14 AM »

Ott, In the case that I referenced the Gov. and Sen. Kerry where at the funeral.  I ask the selectman if he thought the Governor was going to come by and make them raise the flags back up.  It was a show of no common sense and no respect for a young fallen hero. 

The frosting on the cake, so to speak, was that the father of the serviceman killed was an official in the neighboring town, so all our town officials personally knew the family.  Just ridiculous.

In another note the apartment complex that would not allow flags has had a change of heart due to public pressure, I'm sure.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2009, 08:37:17 AM »

"Christmas" is an epithet?
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2009, 09:16:14 AM »

I was finally able to access the link re the flag.  The American view on flag waving is very different from the British one, or indeed (I believe) anywhere in Europe.  In Britain waving the Union flag is generally associated with the National Front, an extreme right wing racist organisation whose activities are often proscribed.  So having a flag outside your house is definitely something you DON'T want to do.
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2009, 09:17:26 AM »

"Christmas" is an epithet?
I'm using it in that sense.  It obviously isn't the only meaning of the word.
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